Revised 18 August 2014
5.5 ex 4.2.8.1 Family of Samuel WHAITE and Elizabeth (Darbyshire)
1. John bp as White Sunday 4 Aug 1822.2012* p 252 Manchester Cathedral Lancashire England [F Cotton Spinner] d 17 Mar 1892 Alberton South Australia Pt A 201/161 age est 69 years bu Mar 1892 Woodville Cem Fisherman arrived as Weight Adelaide SA Apr 1849 on “William Watson” m 21 Sep 1850 Trinity Ch Adelaide Ade 4/152 Elizabeth Jane (Boyd/e) b c 1833 d 29 Nov 1907 Exeter late of Alberton Pt A 329/346 bu 1907 Woodville age 74 years see `whaitesa.doc
2. William bp as White 1 Aug 1824.2057* p 258 Manchester Cathedral [F Spinner]
3. James b c 1826 Lancs [1829 Census 1841]
Census 7 June 1841 HO107/577 ed 36 f 18a p 31 Mill Hallsworth St all born Lancs: Samuel Waite age 35 years Spinner, John age 15 years Piecer, James age 12 years Piecer, William age 10 years Piecer
Details of this family from Robert Whaite
Extra info from Philip Whaite 22 Jul 2013
4. Mary Ann bp as White 9 Jul 1826.2382* p 298 Manchester St Mary, St Denys & St George [F Spinner] ? d pre 1841 Census
5. Samuel bp as White 8 Mar 1829.768* p 96 Manchester St Mary, St Denys & St George [F Spinner] ? d pre 1841 Census
6. Elizabeth bp as White 4 Nov 1832.2231* p 279 Manchester St Mary, St Denys & St George [F Spinner] ? d pre 1841 Census
There is no 1841 Census record in Manchester area for Samuel White and family
5.6 ex 4.2.8.2 Family of Samuel WHAITE and Sarah (Hyde)
1.George bp 9 Oct 1831 [M Mary IGI/ M Sarah MC Baptisms] Residence 6 Newberry St d 7 Dec 1878 at 13 Coal Clough Habergham Eaves reg Dec Qtr RD Burnley 8e.180* entry 98 Cause: Chronic Bronchitis 3 months Asthma 14 days age 45 years Informant M H Whaite widow of deceased Spindle Maker bu 12 Dec 1878 Burnley Cem age 45 years Abode: Coal Clough Lane Grave 13719 Burnley Reg Burials: p 21 entry 19280; Photographer Burnley on reverse family photo; m (1) 18 Feb 1855 entry 189 St Augustine RC Chapel Granby Mews reg March Qtr 1855 8d.402/7* Manchester (Witnesses: George Moseley, Eliza Whaite her mark) Anne (Fisher) Widow Residence 29 London Road bp as Ann Harris 7 Jan 1828 Lower Mitton Worcs [post 1844 known as Stourport Worcs] d as Annie White 8 Jan 1868 entry 204 at 136 Carter St SD St George reg Mar qtr 1868 RD Manchester 8d.229* Cause: Drowned herself whilst Insane age 38 years wife of George White Spindle Maker Information received from Edward Herford Coroner for Manchester Inquest held 10 January 1868; Death Notices "On the 8th inst. Ann Whaite aged 40; also, on the same date, Helena Whaite aged one month; the wife and daughter of George Whaite" [Manchester Guardian 25 January 1868]; [Mother shown as Annie Garrow in MC 1905 and DC 1931 of Harry Whaite] see SF and 6.9. Ann Harris full age [F not shown] Residence Saint Michaels Lyme Regis Dorset b c 1826 Stourport Worcs m (1) by License 29 Apr 1852 entry 301 Parish Church reg June qtr 1852 St Martins in the Field Mdx 1a.506* (Witnesses: Emma Hodgson, Charles ? Pertha) Charles FISHER Esquire full age Residence Cockspur Street [F Thomas Captain] bp 26 Nov 1806 East Teingmouth Devon [Census 1851] d 5 Sep 1853 at Silver Street reg Sep qtr 1853 Axminster Devon 5b.2* entry 413 Cause: Fever 5 weeks age 46 years informant Margaret Legg Upholme Clerk present at death see 6.8 and SF
George m (2) after Banns 28 Nov 1870 Holy Trinity Habergham Eaves reg Dec Qtr 8e.326 Burnley* (Witnesses: Joseph Talbot, Sarah Talbot) both of 10/16 Morpeth St Mary Hannah (Bowker) Tailoress b 19 Nov 1843 entry 272 reg Dec qtr 1843 23.579* Skipton Yks bp 10 Dec 1843 Skipton in Cranes Yks ? d as Tattersall June qtr 1894 Burnley 8e.143 age 49 years see SF and 6.10. Mary Hannah Whaite m (2) 27 Jul 1889 reg Sep qtr 1889 Burnley 8e.374 James TATTERSALL b c 1836 Worsthorne Lancs Stone Mason d 1909 ? Dec qtr 1909 Blackburn 8e.221 age 73 years/Dec qtr 1909 Haslington 8e.94 . ?? James Tattersall m (2) post 1894 - pre Mar 1901 Dora ?? FIND
Census 31 March 1901 RG13/3871 f 129 p 34 Sched 194 Burnley Habergham Eaves: at 5 Tennyson St: James Tattersall 73 b Worsthorne Lancs, Dora Tattersall wife 59 b Accrington
5.7 ex 4.2.8.3 Family of Samuel WHAITE and Sarah (Mos(e)ley)
All baptisms Manchester Collegiate/Cathedral
1.John b c 1834/1836 DC; ? 1839 Census 1881 d 13 Dec 1889 entry 271 Oldham Union Workhouse SD Oldham Below Town reg Oldham Dec qtr 1889 8d.469* Cause: Paralysis age 53 years Railway Inspector late of 61 Shaw St Oldham Informant sister Louisa Ann Tattersall X her mark Labourer at Iron Works; witness marr 1887 sister Louisa Ann 7 below; Residence Hough Lane m after Banns 8 Sep 1866 entry 499 age 30 years Wagon Inspector Cathedral & Parish of Manchester (Witnesses: Elizabeth Dickens, John ? Foman) reg Sep qtr 1866 8d.422* Manchester Sarah (Houghton) Residence Great Clowers St Broughton ? WRONG b Sep qtr 1846 Man 20.776 [F Samuel Houghton Waterman]
Census 1871 RG10/3697 f4 p 39 Northwich Witton Cheshire: at Witton Street: John Waits Head 38 Carriage Inspector on Railways b Lancashire, Sarah wife 23 b Lancashire
2.Mary Eliza b 11 Jan bp 14 Feb 1836 [F Mechanic]; ?? witness marr George [2.4.1]
3.Esther b c 1837 [Cs 1851] Manchester Weaver Cotton FIND M D
4. Harriette Amelia b 6 May 1838 entry 498 at 66 Great Ancoats St SD London Road Informant F Samuel X his mark reg June qtr 1838 Manchester 20.576* [M Sarah Moseley] bp as Harriet A 10 June 1838 ?? died pre 1851 Census NO ISSUE
5. Mary Clayton bp 26 Feb 1840 [F Mechanic] d June qtr 1840 Manchester 20.362 bu 26 June 1840 Grave 484 James Schofield Indep Chapel Christchurch Ancoats age 4 months NO ISSUE
6.William James b 10 Jul 1841 entry 1118 at Great Ancoats reg Sep qtr 1841 Man 20.180* informant F Samuel M [Mosely] d 23 June entry 243 Gelert House Llewlelyn Road Conway Bay reg June qtr 1919 Conway Wales 11b.619* Cause: Carcinoma Ventriculi Informant M E Whaite widow of deceased present at death of same address; Probate London 28 Sep 1919 William James of Gelert House 29 Llewelyn Road Colwyn Bay to Mary Elizabeth Whaite widow. Effects £1170 9s 10d; Informant as William James then living 121 Coppice St Oldham death mother 1887 Residence 63 Shaw St Oldham Tinplate Worker m 29 Apr 1873 entry 125 St Winifreds RC Chapel Holywell Flint Wales reg June qtr 1873 11b.447* (Witnesses: Joseph Jones, Louisa Whaite) Mary (Elizabeth) (Jones) Residence ? Cornhill Tavern ? Brazalth age 21 years Schoolmistress b c 1852-3 Holyweel Flint Wales [5 records Mar qtr 1852- June qtr 1853] [F Thomas Inn Keeper deceased] d 6 June 1927 29 Llewelyn Road Colwyn Bay reg June qtr 1927 Conway 11b.597 Wales age 75 years; Letters of Administration Manchester 22 Sep 1927 Mary E of Gelert House 29 Llewelyn Road Colwyn Bay widow to Joseph Jones Plasterer. Effects £93 14s 2d ? NO ISSUE
7. Joseph Henry b 7 Oct 1843 entry 236 Great Ancoats SD Ancoats reg Manchester 20.535* informant Sarah Whaite nee Moseley mother X her mark registered 2 Nov 1843.[F Shoemaker] d 20 Oct 1843 entry 236 at 44 Great Ancoats St SD Ancoats Manchester RD Manchester reg Sep 1844 Manchester 20. 402* no age nor Cause of death given informant Sarah Whaite nee Moseley X her mark reg 2 Nov 1843 [F Shoemaker] NO ISSUE
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/4074 f 90 p 32 at Oldham 121 Coppice St: William J Whaite Head 37 b Manchester Tinplate Worker, Mary E wife 28 b Holyweel Flint Wales,Thomas Jones 26 b Holywell Flint Boarder Labourer in Iron Works [? brother in law] , Francis McGovern Boarder 15 b Liverpool Pupil Teacher
Census 5 April 1891 RG12/3305 f 134 p35 Sched 230 Oldham at 121 Coppice St: William J Whaite Head 47 Tinplate Worker b Man Lancs, Mary E Whaite wife 37 b Holywell Flintshire, Louisa Tattersall sister Widow 39 Cotton ?? b Hyde Cheshire [ = Lydia b c 1849 Hyde 2.6.8 below], Fred North Lodger Single 27 Shoe Maker b Huddersfield Yks, Edwin Schofield Boarder Single 44 Cotton Waste Dealer b Lancs Oldham
7. James b c 1846 d 4 Jan 1848 entry 157 at Clarendon Place Hyde RD Stockport Cheshire Mar qtr 1848 19.264* Cause: Scarlatina 11 days Father Samuel Spindle Maker informant and in attendance NO ISSUE
8.Louisa Ann b 26 Jul 1848 entry 128 at Clarendon Place Hyde reg Sep qtr 1848 Stockport 19.264* as Lydia Cs 1851; d post 1888; witness marr 1873 William James 6 above Residence 61 Shaw St m by License 17 May 1877 entry 65 St Marys RC Chapel Shaw St Oldham (Witnesses: J Whaite, Eliza Evans) reg June qtr 1877 Oldham 8d.910* James TATTERSALL Residence 15 Sarah Moor b c 1846 [F James deceased Coal Miner] Painter d 27 Feb 1888 entry 497 at 40 Mary St Oldham below Town reg Mar qtr 1888 Oldham 8d.487* Cause: Brights Disease age 49 years Informant present at death Louisa widow X her mark
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/4068 f 18 p29 Sched 157 Oldham at 61 Shaw St: James Tattersall Head 34 b Oldham Painter, Louisa A 31 Cotton Weaver b Hyde Lancs, Sarah Thwaite Mother in Law 74 b Shropshire [1.2.8.2]
1832Pigots Directory Spindle & Fly Maker Mechanic 59 Ancoats St
Census 7 June 1841 Ancoats HO 107/576/7 MF 625 f 47 p40 Line 23 Ancoats at Great Ancoats St ? Cellars: Samuel Whaite age 30 years Broker, Sarah age 30 years Not born Lancs, George age 10 years, John age 7 years, Eliza age 5 years, Harriet age 3 years also George Mosly age 15 years Cabinet Maker not born Lancs ? bp 26 Oct 1823 St Mary Magdalene Bridgnorth Shrops IGI [F John M Catherine]; witness marr 1855 George Whaite
Slaters 1841 Manchester Directory Samuel Spindle & Fly Manufacturer 68 Great Ancoats St
Census 30 March 1851 HO 107/2154 f480 p2 Hyde Cheshire at 8 Ridling Lane: Samuel Whait 45 Spindlemaker b Manchester, Sarah Whait wife age 43 b Ridge North ? = Bridgnorth Shropshire, George son 19 Spindlemaker b Man, John son age 16 Piecer at Factory b Man, Esther dau 14 Weaver Cotton b Man, William son 8 Scholar b Man, Lydia dau 2 b Hyde Cheshire
Census 2 April 1871 RG10/4094 f 184 p45 Oldham below Town at 43 Shaw St: Sarah Waite Head Widow 64 b Bridgnorth Shropshire Housekeeper, William Waite son 27 Tinplate Worker, Louisa Waite 22 dau Mill Operator b Hyde Lancs, Emily Ann Travis 13 Servant b Not known
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/4662 f 32 p1 Sheffield WRY: at 33 Carlisle Street Brightside Bierlow: John Whaite 42 b Manchester O R Wheel Tapper in household of E Deighton 32 Shoeing Smith b Huntingdon
5.8 ex 4.2.9 Family of Septimus WHAITE and Mary Ann (Woodhead)
All baptisms Manchester Cathedral
1.William Henry bp 2 Mar 1834 [F Painter] d 26 Dec 1834 Cause: Decline [M Mariann] bu 28 Dec 1834 entry 362* James Schofield Independent Chapel Christchurch Ancoats age 10 mo late of Travis St NO ISSUE
2.Elizabeth [Mary Census 1871] b 24 Jan bp 14 Feb 1836 [F Artist] m (1) after Banns 5 Apr 1860 entry 498 St Johns Ch Manchester reg June qtr 1860 Manchester 8d.454* Residence both 184 Regent Road (Witnesses: William Bownas, Lucy Bownas) Joseph BEARD [John Census 1871] bp 22 Nov 1835.5273 Manchester Cathedral [F Alfred Butcher M Martha] possibly d Mar qtr 1879 Prestwich 8d.356. Elizabeth Beard age 37 m (2) by Banns 21 Jan 1880 p2477* St Johns Manchester reg Mar qtr 1880 Manchester 8d.244 * both signed and living 66 Quay St Brownlow Tribe BURNETT age 31 years Commission Agent b Gosport Hampshire reg Dec qtr 1848 Alverstoke 7.21 [F William Compton Barnett] d 23 June 1908 entry 206 at 200 Kennington Road Lambeth reg June qtr 1908 Lambeth London 1d.145* Cause: Epithelioma of the Tongue and Throat, Exhaustion age 58 years Music Hall Artiste informant M ? = Mary Burnett [Census 1871] widow of deceased then of 3 Cornbrook Road Hulme as B J Burnett brother in law death 1890 Henry 4 below; informant then of 7 Cornbrook Road Hulme death 1892 father in law Septimus NO ISSUE see SF
Updated by Phillip Whaite
Census 7 April 1861 RG9/2891 f 22 p 39 Sched 253 Hulme Market St: at 24 Medlock St all births Manchester: Joseph Beard Head M 25 Light Porter, Elizabeth 24 wife Mantle Maker
Census 2 April 1871 RG10/4001 f 34 p 7 Sched 35 Hulme at 7 Cornbrook Road Septimus Widower 65, Harry 28 Gilder, James 15, Mary = Elizabeth Beard dau Marr 34, John = Joseph Beard Son in Law M 39 Butcher, Mark Alberts 30
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/3988 f 114 p 21 Manchester: at 68 Quay St: Brownlow T Burnett Head M 32 b Gosport Hampshire Decorator (Manager), Elizabeth wife M 41 b Manchester together with Francis Power & William Stanley Actress & Comedian Note: there are many theatrical people in this street
Census 5 April 1891 RG12/1503 f 141 p 3 Great Yarmouth Norfolk: at 13 Market Place: Brownlow Burnett 45 Show Proprietor b Portsmouth, Elizabeth 49 b Manchester
Census 31 March 1901 RG13/3388 f 126 p 53 Sched 279 Birkenhead: Brownlow Burnett Head 54 b Gosport Hampshire Proprietor Travelling Show, Elizabeth 58 b Manchester, Ernest Whaite 18 Man Servant b Manchester [6.11.3]
3.John b 30 Jan 1838 entry 200 Boad St reg Mar qtr 1838 SD London Road Manchester 20.445* bp 13 Apr 1838 James Schofield Independent Chapel Christchurch Ancoats [F of Green Heys] d 2 Nov 1892 reg Dec 1892 Barton I 8c.438 age 53 bu Weaste Mun Cem 5/1 1667 B1 with parents, dau Ada and brother Henry; Will John 5 Clifford Street, Moss Side artist Probated Manchester 2 December 1892 to James William Whaite artist [brother 5.8.7] and Brownlow Tribe Burnett show proprietor [brother in law 5.8.2] Effects £992/2/8; witness marr 1866 sister Mary Emma 5 below; Artist m after Banns 29 Jan 1861 entry 403* Manchester Cathedral (Witnesses: William Watts/Platts, Mary Kelly) reg Mar qtr 1861 Manchester 8d.191* Lucy (Beard) of 34 Moulton St Hulme b ? Dec qtr 1839 Manchester 20.552 [F Alfred Beard Butcher] d 19 Feb 1881 entry 20 at 250 Deansgate SD Deansgate Cause: Bronchitis one month, Pneumonia reg Mar qtr 1881 Manchester 8d.171* age 40 years wife of John Whaite Scenic Artist [original cert had as informant Brownlow E Burnett sister in law of 68 Quay St, but Column 7 corrected 14 Jul 1881 by W Thomason Registrar in presence of John Whaite Widower of deceased] see 6.11. ? John Whaite ? m (2) Dinah (Unknown) b c 1842 d 28 January 1884 entry 105 at St Bartholomew's Hospital reg March qtr 1884 SD St Sepulchre London City 1c 17* age 42 years Cause: Burnt by an explosion of fireworks Wife of John Whaite Informant: Certificate received from John Payne, Coroner for London. Inquest held 31 January 1884; Probate as Diana 20 March 1885: Administration of the personal estate of Diana Whaite [wife of John Whaite] late of 24 Quay Street, Deansgate, Manchester died 28 January 1884 at St Bartholomew's Hospital in the district of St Sepulchre in the city of London was granted at Manchester to the said John Whaite of 223 Deansgate, Scenic Artist and Decorator. Personal estate £45
4. Henry b end Nov 1840 bp 27 Jul 1842 [age 20 months F Painter] d 13 Feb 1890 Royal Infirmary Manchester entry 79 reg Mar Qtr 1890 Manchester 8d.204* Cause:Lympho Sarcoma of Mediastinal glands and right lung, Pericarditis Asphyxia age 49 years bu Weastre Mun Cem 5/1 1667 B1 with parents, brother John and niece Ada; J Burnett Brother in law present at death Gilder (Journeyman) at The Lodge Childrens Hospital Pendlebury 28 Feb 1890 Admin of Personal estate granted to Septimus Whaite of 7 Cornbrook Road Hulme Artist Father and Next of Kin Personal Estate £1011 NO ISSUE
HCWP HPB4/4 Full details 15 Feb 1890 from H A [Herbert Alfred] I regret to inform you that Harry Whaite died of tumour in the lung on Thursday last. As you are aware since he left the firm behind he has been travelling with Holdens Marionettes all over the world and he contracted a fever in Africa which brought on the tumour. I understand he left £2000 or £3000 principally to his father [wrong! only just over over £1000]
5.Mary Emma b Greenheys [Census 1911] bp 28 May 1843 [F Artist] ?? reg June qtr 1843 Chorlton 20.171 d Dec qtr 1936 Oldham 8d.973 age 93 years Residence 32 Erskine St Hulme m after Banns 2 June 1866 Cathedral & Parish Church entry 326 reg June qtr Manchester 8d.400* (Witnesses: John Whaite [3 above], M E Davies) John BLOWER Residence Chorlton cum Hardy b Warton Warwickshire bp 24 June 1838 Grendon Warwickshire reg June qtr 1838 Atherstone 16.219 Widower [F William Labourer M Mary] d Sep qtr 1890 Prestwich 8d.308 age 50 years see SF and 6.12. John Blower m probably (1) Dec qtr 1859 Atherstone 6d.529 Ann Phoebe (Millard) d Dec qtr 1862 Atherstone 6d.276 ? NO ISSUE
6. Frederick b 4 Mar 1846 entry 496 at 22 Boundary Lane SD Hulme reg Mar qtr 1846 Chorlton 20.329 [F Painter] Informant father Septimus
7.James William b 8 Jan 1854 at 27 Blackfriars St Salford reg Mar qtr 1854 Salford 8d.85 bp 2 Jul 1854 [F Artist of Salford] d 23 Aug 1929 at 62 Green St Gorton reg Sep qtr 1929 Manchester S 8d.133* Cause: acute Cardiac Dilation age 75 years Informant dau A F Hall present at death; Executor will father Probate Manchester 25 Feb 1892; Informant living 187 Tamworth St Stretford death 1896 wife; Cooper m 9 Apr 1879 entry 91 June Qrtr Holy Trinity Hulme reg June qtr 1879 Chorlton 8c.790* (Witnesses: Joseph Greenhalgh, Jane /) both of 36 Vine St Alice (McLean) b c 1853 [DC]/1855 Preston [Census 1881] ? reg Dec qtr 1855 Chorlton 8c.494/Mar qtr 1857 Preston 8e.416 d 15 June 1896 entry 143 Royal Infirmary Manchester reg June qtr 1896 8d.192a* wife of James Whaite Scene Painter [Journeyman] of 187 Tamworth St Stretford Cause: Strangulated Hernia, Herniotomy, Shock and Exhaustion age 43 years Informant M Goldsmith present at death see SF and 6.13
Directories: 1836 Pigots Painter 32 Travis St, ? 1850 Manchester Trades Directory Painter 5 Norton Street Salford, 1861 Slaters M & S 23 Great Bridgewater St, 1869 Artist 7 Cornbrook Place Cornbrook Rd Hulme, 1871-2 Artist in Oil Colours 7 Cornbrook Place
Census 7 June 1841 HO 107/583/17 p36 Line 15 Hulme at 22 Boundary Lane: Septimus Whaite 30 Painter, Mary 25, Elizabeth 5, John 3, Henry 6 months All born in County
FIND Census 1851 ? at 5 Norton St Salford
Census 7 April 1861 RG9/2942 f108 p23 Sched 119 Manchester: at 23 Great Bridgewater St: Septimus WHITE Artist age 53 years, Mary Ann age 47 years, Henry age 20 years Builder, James age 7 years, Mary E age 17 years
HCWP HPB4/1 dated 3 Apr 1870 Septimus in Dublin working for Mr De Arc at an Exhibition ? at Rotunda
Census 2 April 1871 RG10/4001 f 34 p 7 Sched 35 Hulme at 7 Cornbrook Road Septimus Widower age 65 years, Harry age 28 years Gilder, James age 15 years, Mary [= Elizabeth] Beard dau Marr age 34 years, John [= Joseph] Beard Son in Law Marr age 39 years Butcher, Mark Alberts 30
Census 3 April 1881 RG11 3931/101 p 41 Hulme at 7 Cornbrook Road: Septimus Waite age 74 years Scenic Advert (Printer) [Romana Inn at 10 Cornbrook Road]
Census 5 April 1891 RG12/3195 p27 f 37 Hulme at 7 Cornbrook Road: Septimus Widower age 83 years
Weaste Municipal Cem Monumental Inscriptions 5/1 1667 B1 Septimus age 84 years, Mary Ann 41/47 years, John 53 years, Henry 49 years also Ada 18 months dau of John and Lucy [6.11.2]
5.9 ex 4.2.11 Family of Elizabeth (Whaite) and Reginald John RICHARDSON
All baptisms Manchester Cathedral [IGI]
1.Thomas bp 12 Feb 1834 d 12 March 1909 reg Mar qtr 1909 Cardiff Glamorgan Wales 11a.275 age 75 years m 17 Apr 1859 Cardiff reg June qtr Cardiff 11a.344 Ann (Thompson) b 5 Nov 1841 Ditcheat Somerset reg Dec qtr 1841 Shepton Mallet 10.425 d 21 Dec 1903 Penarth Glamorgan reg Dec qtr Cardiff 11a.242 age 61 years see 6.14
2.John Geoffrey bp 20 Nov 1836 m 24 Aug 1862 reg Sep qtr 1862 8d.260 Manchester Caroline (Austin) see 6.15. Caroline Richardson m (2) 20 Nov 1872 reg Dec qtr Manchester 1872 8d.853 (Witnesses: Henry Austin brother, another person) John PARSON/S
3.Alfred bp 3 June 1838 reg June qtr 1838 Salford 20.754 d 10 Sep reg Sep qtr 1901 Salford 8d.134 age 61 years son Harry in attendance; as Alfred John executor then of 60 Broughton Road Salford will 1881 Thomas Whaite [4.2.2]; witness marr 1883 Clara 7 below; HPB4/4 1 Feb 1892 Trustee Will Septimus Whaite [4.2.9]; Residence Broughton Road Salford m (1) 20 June 1861 reg Mar qtr 1861 Manchester 8d.529 Jane (Edwards) b c 1836 d 8 Nov 1877 Salford reg Dec qtr 1877 Salford 8d.54 age 41 years see 6.16. Alfred Richardson Residence Broughton Road m (2) 2 Aug 1880 reg Sep qtr 1880 8d.84 Salford Harriet (Rhodes) widow nee Sutcliffe d ? Dec qtr 1889 Salford 8d.117 age 61 years NO ISSUE / see 6.17
4.Walter Henry b 23 Dec 1839 reg as Male Mar qtr 1840 Salford 20.784 bp 21 Jan 1844 [Probable reason for no name on cert and late christening due to Reginald getting 9 months in prison for his Chartist beliefs] d 15 Apr 1911 Ashton upon Mersey Cheshire reg June qtr 1911 Bucklow 8a.110 m 14 July 1862 reg Sep qtr Manchester 8d.150 Jane (Green) d 12 May 1815 Sale Cheshire reg June qtr Bucklow 8a.271b
5. Harry b 7 Dec 1843 at 37 Chapel Street reg as Male Mar qtr 1844 Salford 20.869 bp 21 Jan 1844 d 20 Jul 1844 at 37 Chapel Street reg Sep qtr 1844 Salford 20.591 NO ISSUE
6. Fanny b 13 Sep 1845 at 37 Chapel Street reg Dec qtr 1845 Salford 20.878 d 7 Nov 1846 at 37 Chapel Street reg Dec qtr 1846 Salford 20.912 bu 10 Nov 1845 Prestwich NO ISSUE
7. Clara b 26 Jan reg Mar qtr 1849 Salford 20.957 bp 21 Feb 1850 d Dec qtr 1933 Glossop 7b.910 age 85 years m 12 Nov 1883 December Salford 8d.150 (Witnesses: Alfred Richardson, Elizabeth Richardson) John PLATT b c 1823 Widower see 6.18
8. Mary Alice b 26 Feb 1851 Clayhills Staffs/Salford reg Mar qtr 1851 Wolstanton 17.344 bp as Frances "Fanny" 7 Dec 1851 d post 2 April 1911 possibly Mar qtr 1931 Battersea 1d.668 age 84 years; cared for Thomas & Sarah Whaite at Burton Joyce and left fifty pounds after demise of Sarah Whaite in will Thomas Whaite dated 11 June 1881
Census 7 June 1841 HO/107/586 Book 1 f 7 p 7 Salford Union RD Regent Road: at Chapel St Manchester Salford all born Lancashire: Reginald Richardson Head 32, Elizabeth 29, Thomas 7, John Geoffrey 5, Alfred 3, Walter 1
Census 30 Mar 1851 HO 107/2002 PP 584-5 Stoke on Trent Tunstall Staffs: at Clayhills: Reginald Richardson as John, Alfred b Salford, Walter b Salford, Clara b Salford, female [Mary Alice]
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/3338 f 8 p8 Bashford Notts Burton Joyce: at Rose Cottage all births Manchester: Thomas Head M 84 Out of Business, Sarah wife 72, Fanny Richardson Niece UnM 30
Census 5 April 1891 RG12/2678 f 10 p8 Sched 58 Basford Notts Burton Joyce: Main St Rose Cottage Fanny Richardson Head 40 Single Let Apartments b Salford
Census 31 March 1901 RG 13/3162 p 18 Burton Joyce: at Rose Cottage: Fanny Richardson
Census 2 April 1911 Burton Joyce Sched 137: at Rose Cottage Frances Richardson 60 Let Apartments, 4 other females all unmarried in 6 rooms
HCWP HPB5/6 letter 29 Dec 1910 at Rose Cottage Burton Joyce near Nottingham [postcard picture of Rose Cottage enclosed]
5.10 ex 4.2.12 Family of Frances (Whaite) and William WIGNALL
Most births Manchester
1. James bp 23 Jul 1837 Roll 765 p338 entry 6269 Manchester Cathedral d June qtr 1839 Salford 20.738 age 1 year NO ISSUE
2. ?John b as Whaite 30 Jan 1838 entry 200 Boad St reg Mar qtr SD London Road Manchester 20.445*
3. Thomas Henry b Dec qtr 1839 Manchester 20.491 bp as Thomas 31 Jul 1842.765.338.6269 Manchester Cathedral
4. Mary b Dec qtr 1841 Manchester 20.628 bp as Emma 31 Jul 1842.765.338.2700 Manchester Cathedral d Sep qtr 1872 Manchester 20.554 NO ISSUE
5. Mary b as Alice Dec qtr 1844 Manchester 20.601 bp as Mary 27 Oct 1844 Manchester Cathedral 766.530.4234
6. Elizabeth b 29 Jul 1846 reg Sep qtr 1846 Chorlton 20.248 bp 20 Nov 1853.769.554.4 Manchester Cathedral
7. Henry b c 1849 Cs 1861 ? reg Mar qtr 1849 Manchester 20.569/ Mar qtr 1849 Chorlton 20.195
8.William b 25 Sep 1851 bp 7 Dec 1851.768.551.5 Manchester Cathedral ? d Dec qtr 1939 Manchester 8d.577 age 88 years m Mar qtr 1875 Prestwich 8d.693 Mary Emma (Kay) b c 1852-3 Census 1881 age 29 Bookbinder see 6.19
9. George b 13 Sep 1853 bp 13 Nov 1853.769.546.5 Manchester Cathedral reg Dec qtr 1853 Manchester 8d.199
10. John James b 9 Jan 1855 bp 16 Aug 1868.773.21.6 Manchester Cathedal Census 1881 Coal Dealer with brother William m June qtr 1899 Fylde 8e.346 Emma(Ogden) b c 1858 Manchester see 6.20; letter to HCW HPB4/6 26 June 1911 says "living Elsnick near Kirkham Lancs 57 years old and one of Aunt Fanny's sons of Rochdale Road"
Census 7 June 1841 HO/107/586 f3/31 p 13 Salford Union: at Tontine St: William Wignall Baker 27 b County, Frances Wignall 27 b County, Thomas Wignall 2 b County
Census 7 April 1861 RG9/2930 f 54 pp 26-7 Sched 117 Manchester Ancoats most births Manchester: at 46 Edwards St: William Wignall 44 Head M Master Baker b Clitheroe, Frances M 26??, Thomas S Assistant 24, Mary S 18 Weaver (Cotton), Elizabeth S 15 Winder (Cotton), Henry 12 Batter, William 9, George 7, John J 6
Census 2 April 1871 RG10/4049 f 63 p 31 Sched 170 Manchester St George: at 7 Briddon St: William Wignall Head 55 Baker b Chatburn, Frances wife 55 b Manchester, William son 19 b 1852 Bookbinder b Manchester, George son 17 Clerk b Manchester, John son 15 Mechanic b Lancashire
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/4004 f 21 p 35 Manchester: at 9 Sudbury St: William Wignall 29 Bookbinder & family, Frances Wignall Mother Widow 66
Census 5 April 1891 RG12//3247 f 28 p 49 Manchester St George: at 9 Sudbury St: Frances Wignall 76, William son 39 Bookbinder, John J Single son 35 Coal Dealer
Most details of this family are from Rosalie Anderson per Genes Reunited revised 18 March 2013 by Philip Whaite
Sixth Generation
6.1 ex 5.1.1 Family of Thomas George WHAITE and Elizabeth Ellen (Du Val)
All baptisms Manchester Cathedral
1. Lilian b 15 Feb 1867 bp 1/2 May 1867 reg Mar qtr 1867 Chorlton 8e.631
2.Henrietta Padmore b 20 Feb 1869 Mar qtr 1869 Manchester 8d.390 bp 19 Mar 1869 d 12 Sep 1965 Stanislaus Calif USA m 1895 ? California USA Robert SPOONER b Mar 1869 Canada [F Unknown M b Ireland] d 27 Jan 1959 Stanislaus Calif see 7.1
Further details of this family from Mary Lochrie per GenesReunited
3.Rene male b 12 June 1872 [Death Notice] reg Sep Qtr 1871 Manchester 8d.377 d 25 Jul 1941 San Francisco Calif USA age 69 years Soc Sec # 0 [M Zuval] arrived USA 1889 [1910 census] known as George Rene "Ask/Art American Blue Book m 1893 ? USA [1910 Census] Charlotte ? (Reynolds) b 1876 [1901 Census] see 7.2
4. Mina "Tonio" or "Dux" [said to be shortened form of German Wilhelmina Tom Askey] b 23 Nov 1875 Dec Qtr 1875 Salford 8d.064 bp 23 Mar 1876; Census California 1900 says born Nov 1872 age 25 years arrived USA. Mina alive 1938 having left Gothenburg Denmark 27 Sep 1938 on "Kungsholm": Line 14 Whaite Mina age 62 Single Read English and Danish citizen of Denmark b Manchester England Passport/Visa issued 1 Sep 1938 Copenhagen last permanent address Copenhagen Denmark. It seems that Mina went to live with her mother after 1900 USA Census and became a permanent Danish citizen
1871-2 Slaters Directory of Manchester and Salford T G Whaite Artist & Photographer (C A Duval & Co) Calderbank Prestwich Residence Stretford
Census 2 April 1871 RG 10/4067 f 150a p 20 Prestwich Myrtle Bank all born Manchester: Thomas G Photographer age 36 years, Elizabeth E wife age 26 years, Lilian dau age 4 years, Henrietta Padmore dau age 2 years.Also Father Thomas Marr Artist age 74 years [1.2] Ann Brailsford 21 Domestic Servant b Chesterfield Derbys, Emily Lymer 22 Dom Servant b Bridgewater Somerset
Census 3 April 1881 RG11/0062 f 86 p6 Sched 26 SD St Pauls Hammersmith Fulham Mdx: at Rose Villa All born Manchester: Thomas G Marr age 46 Photographer, Lilian dau age 14,Henrietta dau age 12, Rene male age 9, Mina dau age 5 with Mary E Summer Servant age 24 b Burton Joyce Notts
Census 5 April 1891 RG 12/4292 F 25 p2 Stanwix Carlisle Northumberland at 6 Etterby St: All births Manchester Whaite Thomas G Head Widower age 57 Photographer, Lilian S dau age 24 Artist Painter, Henrietta P dau Single age 22 Artist Painter, Rene son Single age 19 Artist Painter, Mina dau age 14
Letter late Aug 1891 from L Whaite 6 Elleby St Carlisle: Thomas G has retired from business and family going to California in three weeks time, sailing from Liverpool. Uncle Jim [Thomas' brother] is going with them and Rene will follow in nine months time when finishing at Antwerp
Postcard 13 Sep 1891 from Lily Whaite - they are sailing on 17 Sep 1891 on "Parisian" Allan Line for Montreal Canada
HCWP HPB5/6 24 June 1910 from Rene Whaite San Francisco Chief artist and general manager for Terkelson & Henry. Has wife and 1 girl b 1897 1 girl b 1894. "Nettie" lives in Riverside has husband and 1 dau. "Dux" = Mina also there but will return to mother in Copenhagen in a few months
6.2 ex 5.1.1 Family of Elizabeth Ellen (Duval) and Andreas Peschcke Matthiesen KOEDT
1.Matthias Matthiesen b 8 June 1885 reg entry 221 p 125 Frederiksberg Denmark bp ? at home 13 Aug 1885 [details of godfather etc not yet translated] d 11 March 1949 Skodsborg bu Church Cemetery Tarbaek m (1) 4 Feb 1913 Paris France Helga Frederikke (Pedersen) [later changed name to Tranebo] b 25 Oct 1890 Soesmarke Denmark ? d 13 Mar 1986 [dau of Butcher Niels Soren Pedersen and wife Johanne Christine Marquardtsen] marriage dissolved 1914. Matthias Matthiesen m (2) 26 Aug 1916 Ordrup Adele Caroline Rautenbach (Nielsen) Painter b 29 Nov 1895 Zurich Germany d 22 Jan 1958 Copenhagen [dau of Albrecht Rautenbach and Adelheid Gotterkieny adopted in 1900 by Stepfather Bernth Nielsen Painter] see SF 5.1.1
Most details of this family from website of Charles Duval
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