After they arrived in Melbourne at end of December 1884, Harry and Alice probably stayed there at least until September 1885, when their son Frederick was born at West Spencer Street.
Maybe it was about this time that Harry turned his hand to photography, which family stories say had been his occupation, before "Alicia Bool" i.e. Alice Blakeney lured him away to work in the theatre. He seems to have been the manager of St Georges Hall Photo Studio in Bourke St Melbourne, according to an undated "carte de visite" a sort of business card with Harry's photo on the front.
Alice had married her former dancing partner Michael Meagher at Fitzroy near Melbourne on 8 October 1891 and as her occupation was given as "Actress" maybe Alice could no longer care for her son Frederick aged 6. Around 1896, Alice and Michael went to live in Christchurch NZ, where Alice died in 1942 and Michael in 1946.
Carte de Visite c 1890
FAMILY TREE
From Manchester Families
6.8 ex 5.5.4 Family of George WHAITE and Anne (Fisher)
1b. Samuel John b 1855 Dukinfield Cheshire known post 1879 as John Harry "Harry" d 22 Mar 1931.2233* entry 448 Ashton Park NSW Australia Cause: Cyanide Poisoning Self Administered while temporarily mentally deranged Inquest 10 Apr 1931 crem 25 Mar 1931 Rookwood Informant Eric L Morris brother-in-law "Oxley" Tamworth Retired Scenic Artist Probate 57774 of 1 June 1931 living 17 Park Pde Bondi.Sands Sydney Directory has entry 1897 at 23 Crown St as Henry Artist.. Death Notice Sydney Morning Herald 24 March 1931 "Death (suddenly) at Mosman of Harry Whaite, beloved husband of DC Whaite of 15 Park Pde Bondi Funeral Notice Wednesdays paper". Funeral Notice SMH 25 Mar 1931 "Funeral will take place 9.30am at Wood Coffil, then proceed to Rookwood Crem by road" another notice "Members of UOF Gladstone Lodge 157 and of sister lodges are invited to attend funeral of brother Harry Whaite at Wood Coffill ." As Harold Waite on DC Alice Meagher below & Alice (Blakeney) b 31 May 1859 Cleveland St reg Sep Qtr 1859 Wolverhampton Staffs 6b.574* no record of m 3 Feb 1879 St Johns Church Wolverhampton Staffs [age 15 years DC 1942]; shown as Alicia Bool on MC son Frederick 1911; Alicia Boule DC son Frederick 1964 see 7A.12
Passenger List "S S Kildare": Harry Whaite Labourer 23 & Alice [Mrs Whaite] 21 Steerage Destination Melbourne arrived 22 Dec 1884
Alice Blakeney b 1859 Wolverhampton England d 1 Dec 1942.1892* Public Hospital Christchurch NZ Cause: Malignant Cachesia Carcinoma Cervix 12 months age 81 years bu 3 Dec 1942 Bromley Cem New Brighton NZ Block 1A Row F No 94 Headstone says " Alice wife of Michael P J Meagher d 1 Dec 1942" Actress m by License 8 Oct 1891.8306* United Methodist Free Ch 215 George St Fitzroy Vic age 28 years (Witnesses: Alicia Turner, Hannah Smith) both of Fitzroy Michael Patrick John MEAGHER age 29 years b 1857 - 1862 Cork Ireland commonly known as MPJ Maher d 7 Apr 1946 .444* Nazareth House Brougham St C'church NZ Cause: Myocarditis 3 weeks age 89 years bu 9 Apr RC Cem Bromley NZ Actor 1891, Labourer NO ISSUE
?? Michael J P Meagher arrived ? Melbourne Vic Dec 1886 on "Austral" Fiche 476.5/16 Unassisted Shipping.
Both went to NZ c 1896
Wise's Post Office Directory Christchurch NZ 1933 Alice Meagher Dealer, 1935 Michael Shop Assist and Alice Meagher both living 6 Ferry St Sydenham, 1938 both living 64 Coleridge St Sydenham, 1943 Michael Meagher living 64 Coleridge St Sydenham
`whaite.aust.web.doc 19 jan 2009
FAMILY TREEAll Australian generations are shown by “A” after their number
This tree ends at Eighth generation, but further details are available to family members upon request
Seventh GenerationFrom `whaite. uk.doc7A.12 ex 6.8.1b Family of John Harry WHAITE and Alice (Blakeney)1.Ann/ie b ? c 1880 England but left with in England relatives when Harry & Alicesailed to Melbourne Vic m ?? HARWOODpre 1931? Liverpool - got in touch with Frederick Whaite through NSW Police sometime after death Harry 1931, but no record available2.George b 29 June 1882 entry 47 at 93 Hatherton StWalsall reg Sep qtr 6b.694* Staffs [Father shown as John Harry Artist] Informant A Whaite Mother d Sep qtr 1882 Walsall 6b.376 age 0 NO ISSUE3.George b Feb 1884 reg June qtr 1884 Walsall 6b.741 d 27 Oct 1884 at sea on SS "Kildare" [2 days after boat left Plymouth] reg 15 Dec 1884.2043* Hobart Tas Australia age 8 months Informant: Master of S S Kildare [only details say "Parents passengers on S S Kildare"] NO ISSUE4.Frederick Henry b 26 Sept at 161 Spencer StWest Melbourne Vic reg 15 Dec 1885.3690* Sydney NSW by Declaration of Mother living Picton Arms Hotel Campbell St. [Alice had arrived in Sydney on 11 Dec 1885 on "Gunya"] d 16 Oct 1964.5444* Sutherland District Hospital Caringbah Cause: Gastro Enteritis days Mitral Incompetence years Congestive Cardiac Failure years age 78 years crem 19 October 1964 Northern Subs Crem NSW [M Alicia Boule] late of 5/55 Ewos Parade Cronulla Informant R Whaite son Probate 1965/585002 NSW Musician m 5 June1911.5121* entry 113 residence of Rev Victor Clark-Duff Cessnock (Witnesses: Jean Stevens, Lilly Bussell) Lilian May (Stevens) b 17 Feb 1886.25787 Maitland d as Lillian May 15 May 1962.14480* entry 321 Metal Hospital Rydalmere late of Unit 5 Huntingdale Court Ewos Parade Cronulla reg Chatswood [F Charles Stevens Furniture Mfrer] Cause: Auricular Fibrillation years, Myocardial Degeneration years, Cerebral Thrombosis years crem 17 May 1962 Northern Suburbs Crem Informant Jas Carlton Manager Mental Hospital Rydalmere see SF and 8A.1Eighth Generation8A.1 ex 7A.12.4 Family of Frederick Henry WHAITE and Lilian May (Stevens)1.Living male b 9 May 1912.34549 St. Leonards NSW m 14 Dec 1943 reg 1944.72 St Phillips Church Hill reg Sydney NSW Olive (Cato) b 30 Apr 1920.55A.79 Adelaide SA d 18 Aug 2008 Oatley see SF and 9A.12.Frederick Richard "Dick" b 14 Dec 1914.50300 Alfred St North Sydney reg St. Leonards d 21 June 1974.10966* in the street Sydney Cause:Myocardial Degeneration with Valvular disease 6 Years, Sub Acute Bacterial Endocarditis 6 years Probate 1974/783553 Shipping Clerkm 22 Oct 1937.16895 St. Phillips Church Sydney Janet Argent(Aitken) b 11 June 1919 Manly d 17 Dec 1996 Beecroft Nursing Home see SF and 9A.23.Thomas Maitland b 23 Dec 1919.58299* Vulture St South Bris Qld Informant father then living "Lyndhurst" Stanley St South Brisbane Qld d 24 Apr 1986.103274* Port Macquarie Hospital Cause: Renal Failure 48 hours, Metastatic Carcinomna rectum 6 months Chronic Obstructive airways disease 18 yrs crem 28 Apr 1986 Port Macquarie late of Cowal Creek Road Bellangry NSW Letters of Admin ??? NSW m 24 Nov 1948.3236 Sydney (Witnesses: Daniel Bailey, F Whaite, Lilian May Whaite, Rose Caroline Bailey) Joy Lilian (Bailey) b 19 May 1922 entry 370 at 8 Glenville Ave Enfield reg June qtr RD Edmonton 3a.1272* Mdx [M Rose C Paynter on cert but Painter in index]Enfield M'sex England arrived Sydney NSW 26 Aug 1926 on "Ballaarat" see SF and 9A.34.Jack Maitland b 4 Aug 1924.19878* North Carlton Vic d 19 Aug 1924.10983* Palace Hotel Bourke St Melbourne Cause: Bronchitis Debility Heart Failure 3-4 days age 2 weeks bu 20 Aug 1924 Brighton Cem Vic NO ISSUESPOUSES FAMILIES8A.1.1 Living (Cato) Precis only for full family tree see Cato Revision www.whaite.com Father Leonard Frederick CATO b 7 June 1895 Kapunda SAm Mar qrtr 1917? Lewisham 1d.2244* EnglandMother Louisa Rennie (Pace) b 30 Apr 1888 Pencaithland Edinburgh Scot d 1968.41214 Kogarah NSW [F Robert Ferrier M Catherine]Paternal LinePGF Thomas William CATO b 12 Nov 1853Richmond Vic m 16 June 1877 Stawell Vic PGM Elizabeth (Walker) b 15 Apr 1854Bendigo VicMaternal LineFather Robert Ferrier PACEb c 1856 Kirk Newton Edinburgh d pre 1917 Farmerm pre 1888Mother Catherine (Howden) b c 1857This family lived c 1888 near EdinburghScotlandCensus 3 April 1881 Scotland East Lothian Parish Ormiston 1881-315 ed 2 Line 24 Sched 19 Reg No. 715 at House of Muir Village: Robert Pace 25 b Kirknewton Edinburgh Farm Steward Head, Catherine 24, Clara 1Census 5 April 1891 Scotland East Lothian Parish Pencaitland 1891-373 ed 3 Line 18 Sched 49 Reg No 716 at Wester Pencaitland: Robert Pace 36, Catherine Pace 35, Clara 11, Rosalina 7, Annie 4, Louisa 2 b Haddington Pencaitland, Robert J Pace 7 Mths, Mary McFarlane 21 8A.1.2 Janet Argent (Aitken) Precis only see AITKEN GroupFather James Hudson AITKEN b 7 Aug 1891 Invercargill NZ (c 1893 MC) d c 1974 Sydneym 2 May 1914.2485* Presb Ch Randwick (Witnesses: Martha Cosgrove, John Olson)Mother Elizabeth Ruth (Argent) b 1882 Havershill Essex England d 7 Jul 1963 ?? All Saints Hospital Women crem 5 Jul 1963 North Subs CremSibling of Janet Argent Aitken: Thomas Herbert b 13 Mar 1915 Waverley d c 1991 Sydney m 1940.19579 Mosman Ida Mary (Glover) b 15 Jan 1918.10912 Merungle Private Hospital Leeton reg Narrandera d bet 9 - 12 Nov 1965.3018* at Bantry Bay Rd Frenchs Forest late of 5 Bay St Mosman crem 16 Nov 1965 Northern Subs CremPaternal LinePGF Thomas (Hudson) AITKEN b 4 Dec 1867 * Greenhills Invercargill Ironmoulder d 26 Mar 1935.4739 Liverpool NSW bu 27 Mar 1935 Presb Cem Rookwood NSW came to Sydney c 1913m 18 Dec 1889.3506 Ellis Road Prim Meth Inverness NZPGM Emily Beatrice (Hart) b 1864 Inverness Tailoress d 13 Nov 1907.1083 Hereford St Linwood (? near Invercargill) bu 16 Nov 19078A.1.3 Joy Lilian (Bailey) Precis only for full family tree of Bailey see www.whaite.com and for Painter and Holdsworth see BAILEY GroupFather Daniel BAILEY b 27 Oct 1897Albion Qld d 26 Jul 1958Sydney NSWm 30 Apr 1921Enfield Mdx EnglandMother Rose Caroline (Painter) b 22 Sep 1890 Tottenham Msx d 26 Jan 1979 Stanmore NSWPaternal LinePGF Walter BAILEY b 27 Oct 1853 Little Dean Glos England d 5 Mar 1936 b Brisbane Qld m (2) ?12 Apr 1896AdenArabiaPGM Lily (Lewis)b ? 1873 Swansea Glam Wales d 30 June 1934BrisbaneMaternal LineMGF Henry Charles PAINTER b 22 Jul 1851 St Giles Msx m 17 Nov 1873 St James Shoreditch Mdx MGM Sarah (Holdsworth) b 30 Jan 1855 St Giles Cripplegate London d 6 June 1935Enfield Mdx
Sibling of Joy Lilian Bailey: Irene Mary b 13 Dec 1924Edmonton Msx England m 21 Sep 1946 Campsie Ronald Eric GILLARD b 21 Nov 1924 Undercliffe d 25 June 1993Canberra ACT
After they arrived in Melbourne at end of December 1884, Harry and Alice probably stayed there at least until September 1885, when their son Frederick was born at West Spencer Street.
